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29 September 2004 @ 11:27 pm
Sydney & her cute little pink pills. :P  
Well, the vet called today to inform us that her pre-diagnosis was correct and Sydney does suffer from an underactive thyroid. :( She gave us a bottle filled with cute little pink pills that we have to give Sydney twice a day - for the rest of her life. :( Unfortunately, Sydney and pill taking don't exactly go hand in hand. When she was ill last year we had to give her four or five different medications a day and every day it was SUCH a chore. :P We'd try for a long time to get her to swallow the pill, finally think she swallowed it, and when we weren't looking she'd spit it out! What a faker she was! ;) We also tried putting it in food, but she'd eat around it or eat it only to spit it out later. :P Hopefully it'll get easier for all of us this time around as she gets used to it. Does anyone have any suggestions on getting her to tolerate this more?

We also noticed a pretty big difference in Sydney's energy level tonight. Usually she'd spent the night lying around, watching us exercise or falling asleep under my computer... But tonight she's constantly bringing me her toys and nudging me to play with her. It's almost like she's a puppy again. :)

The vet also warned us and told us to look for signs that the dosage might be too strong for her. :P So far she looks good, in fact, she looks better than she has in months. :) Thank you all for your words of encouragement in my previous post - I know it may seem silly to some that I worry SO much about Sydney, but in the absence of any human children in my life, she's as close to my baby as I'll ever get. Besides, it's no secret that the fuzzy dog's taken over my heart a LONG time ago. ;)

And for some reason, I've been incredibly tired and lethargic the past couple of nights and I'm not quite sure why. :P I think there's something going around my office and I hope that I'm not catching it. :P The last thing I need is to get sick right before we leave on our trip to LA. :( I'm off to crawl into bed, hope you all have a nice evening. :)
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Expresso Maniac: Don't kill koalas!!expressomaniac on September 30th, 2004 04:21 am (UTC)
aww poor baby!!
my suggestion for pills:
when my dogs (I grew up with dogs) had to take pills, I had to pretty much shove them down their throats because they were sly and sneaky and make me think they swallowed them when they actually didn't. So shoving it down the throat ensures it goes down. Then I'd hold their mouth closed for a minute so they didn't try and gag it up then it's all good.
It's kinda gross but it works.

Hope you start feeling better soon! :)

Sheri: Sheri - yahoo iconshutterbug93 on September 30th, 2004 09:03 pm (UTC)
Thanks for the suggestion! In fact, that's how Mark & I used to give her the pills when she was ill, but she'd fake-swallow and then when we put her down she'd spit them out. :P Last night and this morning seemed a little easier, though - I think the pill this time is much smaller than the other one we had to give her before. Hopefully that makes a difference. :) Thanks for your suggestion! :)
chandra on September 30th, 2004 05:07 am (UTC)
Awwww, poor Sydney. Poor you guyz too. Did you ask the vet for ideas on giving Sydney her medication?

Here are some ideas I found surfing google.com:









Never heard of this before, you might ask your vet:

Since this came up in EVERY search I tried:

And a funny quote:

Administering a pill to a dog is like trying to give a root canal to a great white shark. The process starts with opening the medicine bottle, which alerts the dog that the games are about to begin. She sits upright, ears cocked, lips slightly drawn back to remind me that she has relatives in Africa who are pulling down water buffalo.
-- Bruce Cameron

Good luck to you and Sydney!
Sheri: Sheri - yahoo iconshutterbug93 on September 30th, 2004 09:08 pm (UTC)
Thanks SO much for all the great links, Chandra! I went to almost of of them and they're very helpful! I'll definitely try the blowing a little air in her nose, I didn't know that made them swallow. Thank you so much for all the wonderful suggestions. :) Last night and this morning went pretty well with the pills, but we're only in day one. ;) And thanks so much for the luck, I think we'll really need it. :)
curlybear on September 30th, 2004 06:13 am (UTC)
Peanut butter. I had to give Fluffy (the bichon we had) something for Cushing's every day twice a day. She had issues with pills too. Peanut butter is sticky enough that it's nearly impossible for them to spit the medicine out without spitting out the peanut butter too... and every dog I have ever had has LOVED peanut butter. We also used to try cheese and bread... the problem with those is it's easier to eat around the pill and spit out the pill. I would try the peanut butter if you can get her to eat peanut butter. Worked like a charm for Fluffy. :)
Sheri: Sydneyshutterbug93 on September 30th, 2004 09:13 pm (UTC)
Ah, peanut butter! GREAT suggestion! Sydney loves peanut butter - as a puppy I would use it to get her attention when I tried to photograph her. If she doesn't go for the swallowing, I'll definitely try the peanut butter. :) Thanks so much for your suggestion. :)
Rachelreelcowgirl on September 30th, 2004 06:56 am (UTC)
When you give her the pill, hold her chin up so that she's looking at the ceiling. Pry open her mouth so you can see down her throat, and drop the pill in. Most of the time, they have to swallow immediately (though some are more talented). Hold her jaw closed until she swallows, then check to make sure she did and still keep a grip on her. If she didn't, you'll be able to hold her head up again really quickly. Sometimes with cats and dogs we use a long tube just to push the pill a little bit further back in their throat so they have to swallow it. With this, we just pop the pill in, push it down quickly with the tube (or whatever long thing), and most of them are fine. Hope that helps! Also, ask your pharmacist (or vet) if you can crush the pills and mix them into wet food. Some pills you can't crush, but most of them you can and they work out fine. Or, alternatively, soak the pills overnight (or between dosings) so you have just a little bit of "pill water" and mix that in with chunky wet food. Hope that helps! :)
Sheri: Sheri - yahoo iconshutterbug93 on September 30th, 2004 09:18 pm (UTC)
Thanks so much for your great suggestions, Rachel! We have been trying the "holding and dropping the pill down her throat" method. It's been working pretty well, but I worry when I'm away and Mark has to give her the pills by himself. :P Maybe then we could try soaking them in water. :) Thanks so much again for your great suggestions! :)
Arjaycrazyarjay on September 30th, 2004 07:00 am (UTC)
I'll second the Peanut Butter suggestion......that wasthe only way we could get Oreo (my parents' previous Sheltie) to take HER thyroid pill.

And it's not silly at all that you worry so much about Sydney.....like you said, she's like your child. :) In fact, my parents say that Hannah is their dogchild. :)
Sheri: Sydney - happyshutterbug93 on September 30th, 2004 09:26 pm (UTC)
Haha! Yay for peanut butter, the popular vote! :) I think we'll have to do the peanut butter trick to break up the other swallowing techniques we're trying. ;) She definitely won't dread pill time then. ;)

And thanks so much for understanding about my worry for Sydney. :) I sometimes think that some of my RL friends don't understand my attachment to Sydney at all. :P
Debsb186 on September 30th, 2004 08:01 am (UTC)
Good news to hear that Sydney is feeling better. :) The sheltie we had when we were kids had a thyroid problem too, and she was fine as long as she had her medicine. From what I've heard, it's a somewhat common problem with shelties.

When Sunny had to have pills after her 'bee sting incident' a couple of summers ago, we bought a pack of processed cheese slices, and wrapped the pill up in that. There aren't too many things that Sunny likes more than cheese! :D
Sheri: Sydney - happyshutterbug93 on September 30th, 2004 09:31 pm (UTC)
Ever since posting that other message in my journal, I've come to realize what a common problem it was among dogs and shelties in particular. Prior to that I had no idea that dogs could have thyroid problems.

Sydney loves cheese too! That's another wonderful idea that we'll probably have to try! :) Thanks so much for your comment and your suggestion! :)
irisheyes77 on September 30th, 2004 08:25 am (UTC)
That's great news about Sydney, but also, I was sorry to read that you aren't feeling very energetic lately. I started taking a Super B Vitamin Complex (it's got B6 and B12 both in it) and it gave me tons of energy.
Sheri: Sheri - yahoo iconshutterbug93 on September 30th, 2004 09:33 pm (UTC)
Thanks Amanda, I was starting to wonder if I had a thyroid condition myself. :P I used to take vitamins religiously, but I stopped for awhile. I really should go back to them - I was feeling so much better while I was on them. :) Thanks for your advice! I'll try looking for the Super B Complex. :)
queenstacey on September 30th, 2004 08:35 am (UTC)
hhmmm, maybe you can stick the pill in her favorite treat and hope she doesn't notice.... Or, you can crush the pill up and put it in her food. That way she's sure to at least take some of it.

I'm glad she's feeling more active. And I hope you aren't getting sick.
Sheri: Sheri - yahoo iconshutterbug93 on September 30th, 2004 09:38 pm (UTC)
Thanks for your great suggestions, Stacey! :) We used to put her medication inside snausages (which were her favorite treats) and that worked for a while, until she figured it out and started pushing out the pill and eating only the treat around it. :P I think that crushing the pill is a great idea - then we can mix it with can food - I'm sure she'll eat it then. :)

And thanks for your good wishes! I'm feeling a little better today... *knocks wood*. :)
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WE ALL NEED A SENSE OF HUMOR: tweetybeam861 on September 30th, 2004 09:54 am (UTC)
Cute little pills for a cute little doggie!:) I hope they are not too expensive! I can understand your worries about the fuzzy dog. I have children, and I still would be devestated if something happened to one of my furry friends.
They just worm their way into your heart! We found the best way to give Mortie pills (he spits them out when you are not looking too) is to Open his mouth then put them in his throat as far back as you can, then close his mouth right away and lean his head back, so he has to swollen them
It's a good thing he is a good natured doggie. It's kind of hard to explain, the vet showed us how to do it, but I think if you will try, it might work. Good Luck!
Sheri: Sydney - happyshutterbug93 on September 30th, 2004 09:42 pm (UTC)
Hi Barb! Thanks so much for your suggestion! :) Mark & I have been trying to give her the pill that way last night and this morning and it seems to work well. The good thing is that the pill is small and very thinly diamond shaped so it looks like it'll go down fairly easy. :)

And I know that you understand me really well because of all your furry babies! They do worm they way into your heart! :) Thanks Barb!
Shannon: Teddybourriquet76 on September 30th, 2004 10:14 am (UTC)
I'm beginning to think Sydney is the reincarnation of my original Sheltie! Laddie was a terrible pill taker, we had to shove it down his throat, hold his mouth closed and he was still able to spit it out at least half the time.

Peanut butter or cheese whiz do wonders though.
Sheri: Sydney - couchshutterbug93 on September 30th, 2004 09:47 pm (UTC)
Oh my gosh, Laddie sounds just like Sydney! We had such an awful time giving her the medication when she was ill last year - at least for that one there was an end in sight... It was rather diheartening to hear that this would have to be for the rest of her life. :(

And yes, I have to try peanut butter! :) Sydney's a peanut butter lover - I know that'll help a lot! Thanks so much! :)
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Carriecarrieh on September 30th, 2004 11:59 am (UTC)
With Tess it's simply a case of putting the tablet in a piece of cheese, she's always loved cheese. Or the cruel option was to put it in a piece of mars bar. She'd inevitable get the mars stuck on the roof of her mouth and would be far too busy trying to do contorsion acts with her tongue and so didn't notice the tablet. Mind you, now she's got so used to taking tablets that she'll eat the tablets on their own.

Our neighbours had a dog on tablets for heart trouble. About 2 years after the dog died they had a new carpet fitted and the carpet fitter asked if they had a dog that didn't like taking its tablets. Penny had managed to lift a bit of carpet behind some furniture - there were over 200 tablets under there!

You want difficult, the medicine she's on now is liquid, believe me, trying to syringe medicine into a Sheltie's mouth is very messy!
Sheri: Sheri - yahoo iconshutterbug93 on September 30th, 2004 09:52 pm (UTC)
Tess doesn't mind taking her pills on its own? Wow - I hope one day Sydney gets to that point. And part of Sydney's medication last year was liquid and I agree - it's terribly messy! We'd practically have to bathe her after every dose. Besides, we syringe fed her for two months and that gets REALLY messy too. Poor doggie was constantly being wiped down with paper towels back then!

And that story about your neighbor's dog is so funny! I can't believe they found all those pills under the carpet! That was one smart dog!
Jodimiss_broadway on September 30th, 2004 12:17 pm (UTC)
haha, i have thyroid problems too!! jodi and sydney unite :D! don't worry...she'll get used to them...i know i did ;-)!!
Sheri: Sheri - yahoo iconshutterbug93 on September 30th, 2004 09:56 pm (UTC)
*HUGS* Jodi! I never knew that. :( I hope Sydney will get used to her pills too! :)
Sabinesabine10 on September 30th, 2004 04:34 pm (UTC)
I'm glad to hear about Sydney's higher energy level. :) The vet once said that one should pound the pill before putting it into the food. I never needed to do that - Lauser liked to eat way too much. :)

Hope you don't get sick and that you feel better soon.

Sheri: Sheri - yahoo iconshutterbug93 on September 30th, 2004 09:59 pm (UTC)
Thanks so much, Sabine. My Mom's dog, Yuki is very similar to Lauser. :) She really likes to eat and my Mom has no problem giving her pills. ;) I think it's because Sydney's such a picky eater that we have problems. :P

And thanks so much, I actually feel much better to day. :) Hope you've been well.

*HUGS* to you Sabine!
Jami: My doggie - Chip.person958 on September 30th, 2004 05:41 pm (UTC)
Cute pills? I've never heard anyone call them cute before. lol Chip has those same little pink pills. Like a few other people already said - I'd suggest putting the pill in peanut butter. That's what our vet recommended to us. At first we put the pills in with his food, but he'd eat around them. Or accidentally pick them up and then spit them back out. lol No one in my family except for me has ever been comfortable shoving the pills down his throat, so that wasn't an option. The peanut butter works great since he loves it.
Sheri: Sydney - happyshutterbug93 on September 30th, 2004 10:03 pm (UTC)
Wow - another vote for peanut butter! ;) We really have to try that, especially because Syndey loves peanut butter a lot - so much that she probably won't even notice the pill. :) Haha! Cute was the first thing that came to my mind when I saw the pills. :) The ones we had last year wer white and HUGE - thank goodness these are much smaller. :)
I'm so cool too bad I'm a loseraudienceawaits on September 30th, 2004 06:46 pm (UTC)
I don't know what Sydney likes to eat, but my dog loves cream cheese and so when we have to give her pills we put them in cream cheese. We've tried peanut butter as well, but I think she just likes cream cheese better. :)
Sheri: Sheri - yahoo iconshutterbug93 on September 30th, 2004 10:06 pm (UTC)
Thanks Gill! I'll have to try the cream cheese idea too! :) I'm sure Sydney will love to take her pills then! :D